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Re: anybody know the origin?
Fri, August 14, 2009 - 9:16 PMI believe it is henna paste, not mud. Seems to be a representation of the night of henna before the wedding ceremony. -
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Sun, August 16, 2009 - 8:28 AMI think they're singing something about henna, as well.
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Re: anybody know the origin?
Fri, August 14, 2009 - 11:57 PMThe youtube text says: فيلم العشق والدم which (without the vowel marks) says: film al-aishq wa al-dm
Running the original Arabic text through Google translate says that it's a movie called "Love and Blood"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sherihan
Haunting catchy song. I loved it the first time I encountered it!
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Sun, August 16, 2009 - 5:21 AMWow, google translate can do Arabic too?
I noticed that Google translate is a brilliant new transaltion machine wher the text really makes sense. I translated a text from Norwegian recently, and one transaltion machine said, the greeting in the last line was: "Crop crop bump!" Google translated it as "Big big hug!" See? ; )
That opens new possiblities on youtube... -
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Sun, August 16, 2009 - 5:30 AMYes. It shows the bride and her dowry being transported, then it shows the henna party which is conducted separately for men and women. the dancing woman pparently remembers her own wedding where she was either scorned and left alone during the wedding night or dreaded having her bridegroom come to her. Anyway, it shows typical scenes and feelings from a woman's life in the Middle East and its very well done. I love it, I wish I could see the whole movie and maybe should try to find it in the video stores. What are my chances, does anyone know? -
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Sun, August 16, 2009 - 5:39 AMIt must be an Egyptian movie, and not a recent one, either:
www.imdb.com/name/nm0792302/
Even the commenters on youtube are not sure which movie it is, they are talking about a different very sad movie with the actress Sherihan where a daughter is buried allive by her father.
I knew it once but I forgot: what was the burying girls alive thing about, in the Middle East? -
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Sun, August 16, 2009 - 6:02 AMThe "more info" on the youtube description translates to "Movie Love and Blood of the night"
It is this one: 2001 Al Eshk Wal Damm Love and Blood العشق والدم
available here: www.musicman.com/00pic/11909.html
The actress: www.fanoos.com/society/sherihan.html
It says elsewhere: "Famous Egyptian actress Sherihan has recently given birth to her second child, a baby girl, in Beirut.
Sherihan opted to be in Beirut for the delivery because she's a tad bit superstitious and is afraid of the evil eye!!
Or it was just one of the options, since Sherihan normally spends her time either in London, Al Mansoura or Beirut"
My idea about the terror and sadness of the girl is that maybe she is not a virgin, and her husband will find out soon, as is what happened in the other girl's case.
There is also a movie called "The virgin and the White hair" which is obviously a different, equally scary and depressing scenario. -
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Mon, August 17, 2009 - 3:56 AMWow, we are lucky in the west - and unlucky in other ways. But just hearing about the new law passed in afganistan today where the husband will be allowed to withdraw maintenence if the wife does not have sex with him. -
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Mon, August 17, 2009 - 9:33 PMAlice Schwarzer, the famous German feminist, once said:" Prostitutes are not respected in society but they are more honest than some of the wives."
You see what these Afghans make their women into? But then, in a country where the women are not allowed to go to school because it is "against shariah law" (bullshit, IMO) and who are not given medical attendance when in childbirth because " a woman must not get an education and is not allowed to work, so only men can be doctors but men are not allowed to see a woman's body, therefore cannot attend childbirth", this can be regarded as a minor trivialility among much greater evils.
We once had a big bellydance show with 80 dancers and the proceeds were donated to RAWA , the Revolutionary association for the women of Afghanistan.
Have you seen the movie "Kandahar" yet?
Check my blog for reviews of Fatima Mernissi's and Hisham Sharabi's research work in the 6 part series "Trying to understand the Arabic mind".
link to part 6
people.tribe.net/astrid_se...f4f4f0b261
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Tue, August 18, 2009 - 8:59 PMwhat is "maintenence"? does that mean he doesn't have to feed her? or take her to the vet? (since she's being treated like livestock....)
on the vid, there's a song by Alix Olsen (sp?) called "Eve's Mouth" with a verse that reminds me of this clip "queen Victoria gave her daughter some advice as her daughter shook and trembled on her wedding night, Queen Victoria she said to her daughter 'baby lie still and think of the empire'. and her husband, though kind and mild, never stopped to wonder why she never smiled" -
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Tue, August 18, 2009 - 9:35 PMWithdrawing "maintenance" probably means she does not get to eat all the grains she has been growing, as women actually do most of the work in some of these countries. Or was that the mountain Tribes in Thailand and the tribes in Africa? Women work while men sit around and drink tea or coffee and talk about how important they are.
And regarding what a bride is supposed to think about, the German soldiers' wives were once told:"Close your eyes and think of your fatherland." (production in process)
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Re: anybody know the origin?
Tue, August 18, 2009 - 9:36 PM'baby lie still and think of the empire'
Oops! I read "Baby, lie still and think of the vampire" and felt I had to add the quote above. Must the humidity here. ; ) -
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Wed, August 19, 2009 - 8:00 AM"I read "Baby, lie still and think of the vampire""
hehehhe, queen Victoria must have had some fetishes. twilight anyone ^_~
i didn't intend anything mean about the clip, just about the idea that sex is a "duty" of wives to provide.
regarding the clip, i really feel these community celebrations and activities are missing from American culture, which is so focused on the nuclear family. i think the added sense of community that public dancing and community oriented festivals could provide would do everyone some good. (not that there's anything wrong with individualism, but both are important)
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