http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736?format=rss Tribe.net. Local Connections http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#c8020740-acbe-4d73-8da6-6cd6804fdc45 I at last had time to upload the video of our Moroccan tray dance performance: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9VL4FqLAGqw Enjoy! Wed, 06 May 2009 18:25:41 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#c8020740-acbe-4d73-8da6-6cd6804fdc45 Canela, too hot for you 2009-05-06T18:25:41Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#d580ac91-97b0-4e0c-9bf8-114a215dfbe7 Found one more video of a dancer with tray. She does the center splits, but you can see how she turns herself around with a tray on her head. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kf3mTjqlzE8 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 19:56:57 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#d580ac91-97b0-4e0c-9bf8-114a215dfbe7 Emilie 2008-11-22T19:56:57Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#1c3a037b-0bbc-4590-949e-76f621d57ac7 Hi Astrid, Glad I was able to help. Yes, you do initiate the movement with your legs. It can be done with out putting your arms down on the ground (was going over this last night to think about how to explain it) . You can start by sitting on your knees, then carefully moving over on to your hip, so you're sitting sort of like a mermaid, then you roll your legs to the other side, your torso will slowly move as well, but it does not initiate the movement. Then you end up sitting mermaid-style again, but your knees and torso end facing the opposite direction. Then you sit back up on your knees again, and repeat the sequence. I think a good drill is to practice from sitting on your knees and smoothly getting into that mermaid-position. Then the more advanced variation of this is having your legs extending, and this case you do need to use your hands for support. But the rolling is initiated by the hips and legs, not the torso, it's just along for the ride. These moves used to be really common 60s, 70s and early 80s. They come out of the "old-school" American Cabaret style. For whatever reason, a lot of these movements went out of fashion for a while. Rachel Brice and some of the tribal/fusion dancers have been making it more popular again. But what's funny is they're recycling these old moves, and people are all really impressed because they've never seen this before. I'm pretty familiar with them because one of my teachers, Severina, was trained by Ansuya and Anaheed who still perform "old-school" floorwork. Actually, Anaheed has a really good video Classic Cabaret Floorwork which would be helpful, or possibly Delilah's Workshop vol 3, which I think someone on the CD/DVD tribe has for sale. You could adapt some of the moves for your tray dance. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTmRa2QediY&feature=related Also Tanna's video Floorwork for Body Shaping might have some useful info on it. I used to have this video, but lost it. It's a cheaper alternative to the other two videos. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNE3AlP-llo&feature=related Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:36:36 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#1c3a037b-0bbc-4590-949e-76f621d57ac7 Emilie 2008-11-21T17:36:36Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#6b33191d-3850-4d72-82b4-0bf6c833ce9b Thank you so much, Emily. Nobody on the drill and choreo tribe is answering my question. = ( = ( Is this such a rare dance? So I really appreciate you helping me out here. After reading your comment I remembered what I did the first time I figured out how to do this and lost it again: you start the movement of rolling your body from the feet and legs instead of the shoulders in this case, right? It took me a while to come up with this, because pivoting in tango while standing up works exactly the opposite way and this is what I am used to. But then I forgot this again,and your comment helped me remember. Yes, I noticed that too, that the sword balancing technique is almost the same except that (as a tribal dancer at least) you can bury a sword in the groove inside your turban but with a tray you can't cheat, unless you place a ring on your head like an Oriental water carrier with a clay pot. So, I found and added this video to my list for further reference because it contains many of the basic moves. http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=dl6aB3mq-Ak If anybody has more on the rolling on the floor bit and other floor moves, I'd appreciate it. Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:21:24 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#6b33191d-3850-4d72-82b4-0bf6c833ce9b Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-21T15:21:24Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#2873adda-55b0-40ca-bf2a-bb256c297d84 One other potentially random comment, I've never danced with a tray. But with a sword most people put candle wax or some thing on the balance point to create a little friction so that it doesn't slip as much. It can make a big difference especially when turning. And for trays, I'm sure it's going to be critical that the objects on the tray are evenly distributed so you have a good balance point. If you know this already, please ignore. Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:57:45 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#2873adda-55b0-40ca-bf2a-bb256c297d84 Emilie 2008-11-20T18:57:45Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#8be88747-f552-46a6-881b-819e46377d39 Hi Astrid, The clips of Djamila and Irina are very nice. In addition to looking at tray clips, you can look at sword clips for inspiration as well. It's the same principal, just balancing different objects. I saw on the the drills and choreography tribe that you're looking for advice on turning over with the tray on your head. I'm posting this clip of Romka. Around 2:40, they start doing the turns I think you were asking about. I think the key is to keep the upper body and torso still as possible, the legs and hips are sort of moving around the torso. Go slowly, take your time. In terms of turning your head, slow have your head facing the direction you're turning. You can rest various points along the circle, I think it's really nice if you stop when you're facing the audience, in a sort of cobra pose.. I don't know if that's helpful, not sure how well I'm explaining it. It's definitely a practice thing. Good luck. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo7mT3F0qjU Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:48:17 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#8be88747-f552-46a6-881b-819e46377d39 Emilie 2008-11-20T18:48:17Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#066b6653-741b-4a61-a4a8-cd70f0ab340e Irina- she is beautiful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqvTpaOnFzw&NR=1 Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:52:04 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#066b6653-741b-4a61-a4a8-cd70f0ab340e Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-20T13:52:04Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#c64eab54-5fdb-4a7a-9d8d-c4d365ae3f47 Djamila mystic tray dnce. Her music is awesome! Does anyone know what song this is? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgUG1AfTST4&feature=related Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:24:12 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#c64eab54-5fdb-4a7a-9d8d-c4d365ae3f47 Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-20T13:24:12Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#36d720fd-8fac-4d6a-88b3-9babfe052c12 Devra, doing a candle tray dance with a great live band: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=827XSTQXdx8&feature=related Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:18:45 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#36d720fd-8fac-4d6a-88b3-9babfe052c12 Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-20T13:18:45Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#42f4606d-5bce-4cdf-8f41-50fba70ecd1c Everything, basically. Turkish, Egyptian, Romani, American tribal, tribal fusion...One invention is "ambient fusion". "Style" is not an issue in Japan, people do not like to divide. I am always asked the same question about tango by Americans... Wed, 12 Nov 2008 13:47:15 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#42f4606d-5bce-4cdf-8f41-50fba70ecd1c Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-12T13:47:15Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#3f5ec90b-e064-4e1d-8f58-431b403fafee I wish I did...I can't even carry a book on my head....and she's doing Yoga poses??!! WWWAAAAAYYYY beyond my scope!! Are you taking classes in Japan? What style of BD do they generally practice? Wed, 12 Nov 2008 04:21:20 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#3f5ec90b-e064-4e1d-8f58-431b403fafee Etta 2008-11-12T04:21:20Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#6578f224-8c88-4bbb-a702-f8cdc3e373a9 I love and am awed by Shabnam too. However, I am nowhere near her technical and athletic prowess, I said, we are practising this and I am looking for inspiration... If someone has something simpler to look at...? Please? Mon, 10 Nov 2008 04:39:17 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#6578f224-8c88-4bbb-a702-f8cdc3e373a9 Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-10T04:39:17Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#76771553-e60e-4761-918c-2588c1e5ee8d I love it mmm also with candles on Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:29:19 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#76771553-e60e-4761-918c-2588c1e5ee8d Eugenia 2008-11-08T18:29:19Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#96e56063-efaa-4c6f-aafb-392ce96782c6 Beautiful video...thanks for sharing I have always loved Shabnam...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c_HJhVTMJA Sat, 08 Nov 2008 18:04:09 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#96e56063-efaa-4c6f-aafb-392ce96782c6 Devi 2008-11-08T18:04:09Z http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#934ba2de-f274-4abc-ac57-eb6e20fe6213 this is some of what we are working on right now in my class. I discovered this beautiful video on youtube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wmwF3FHzh2s&feature=related If you know more good videos of this genre, please share. Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:15:20 GMT http://bdvideoclips.tribe.net/thread/0ed5c484-6a6b-4b0c-9a0a-7a841837b736#934ba2de-f274-4abc-ac57-eb6e20fe6213 Canela, too hot for you 2008-11-08T17:15:20Z